May 15, 2008

Where was everyone last night?

Last night, our church had one of our Reconciliation Meetings and the turn out was pretty poor. Not many staff, not many elders, very few "non-anglos", and very few of the core membership. Per capita there was actually a lot of single white female students. What happened?

I have some theories:
-It's mid-May when young people are swamped with exams and projects and parents are bound to their kid's needs. If that's true then why were there so many students there?
-Poor communication. Our church tells people about events, but it is told in a way that never really communicates the true meaning. In our church, an announcement could be in the bulletin, mentioned during the announcements, and displayed on the screen during the service and it is still missed by most of the congregation or ignored. What can we do to communicate the value of events and programs in our church?
-South was not there. The South city congregation shows up. They are really committed to the church because it is a smaller community there. This meeting was U City only. You would not expect that a congregation that's maybe 60% larger would not be there for a meeting.

If you were there, what made you want to come? If you were not there, what was lacking in the meetings planning that might have helped you to be there?

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May 14, 2008

Salvador Lead Singer and Valasquez Married?!

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I just read this cool interview on Christianity Today about the marriage of Jaci Velasquez to Salvador's Nic Gonzalez. It seems a little too perfect doesn't it. You can almost imagine the marketing execs in the bowels of the Nashville hit-machine sitting around dreaming up a crazy sham marriage scheme like when Troy McClure married Marge's sister, Selma in this one episode of the Simpsons.

I enjoyed reading the interview because it really showed the normal, real-life marriage and relationship issues that they have. I especially liked reading this response from Nic about how marriage has affected his songwriting:

Gonzalez: The impact of marriage was an amazing thing for me, as well the impact of my wife being pregnant during the writing of [Salvador's] record. Personally, I found I had become a little less interested in giving God thanks for the everyday things, like my health, the health of my wife, and the fact that we had food to eat. I kind of took those things for granted for a while. I was so used to working hard, and by the labor of your own hands you feel like you can accomplish anything. I don't know if it's the blood or just something in me that says I can make things happen; I just have to work hard at it to do it. But at the same time, God has allotted these things for me. God has allowed me to have these things. So I realized I don't want to be ungrateful. Instead, I wanted to be the guy that says, "You know what, God? I'm going to take a step back and write songs that honor You and tell You I'm glad where I am."

I can totally relate to Nic here. As a single guy, I wrote a lot of heady songs about theological concepts. Being married and having kids has made me much more conscious of God's daily portion of grace to meet my basic needs. The songs I've been writing lately have been very practical and real.

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May 9, 2008

Video about Morgan Freeman's Ancestry

This video is pretty cool.

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May 8, 2008

New Song: New Creation

I have tamed the Cakewalk beast and finally completed my first ever demo. It's pretty rough, but it gives a decent idea of how the tune goes.

The song was written as an obvious nod to the African gospel music that I have spent the past 3+ years trying to understand. It is intended for corporate worship and so it has pretty simple form, but I think it would be great with horns and full percussion and 3 guitars. Yes, Paul Simon did it first, but Africa is the wave of the future as far as the Christian church goes, so we should get used to it, right?

The message of "New Creation" is that faith in Jesus comes with a promise: the old is gone and the new has come. So it's a promise that can encourage us when we feel defeated, but it can also be a warning for us to examine our hearts. The ending vamp goes through a long list of old/new characteristics. It will play a lot better live as it builds and builds to a climax.

You can check out the demo on my myspace page.

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April 23, 2008

Missional Worship

I had this talk from Doxologist streaming while I worked today. It got me thinking about how is our worship at New City Fellowship missional? How are we engaging with the culture around us instead of just being a Christian ghetto?

We might seem pretty out there to some people, but our worship is fundamentally made up of Christian traditional styles. Yes, traditional. Black tradition, African tradition, Praise and worship tradition, New City tradition, etc. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with Christian traditions, but how are we as disciples of Christ making our worship understandable by non-churched people?

Are we engaging with 18-30 year old males who are mostly absent from the American church in general? Is our worship music feminized and touchy-feely? Do gang members, video gamers, indie kids, goths, gays, facebookers, bloggers hear our music, do they hear our worship and not get blinded by cultural and religious idols that we have given more real estate in our worship service than The Gospel?

Am I over analyzing? It can at least drive us to prayer. Can we just pray about being contextually relevant with grace without compromising the gospel? Lord, when will our church explode with a wave of people who never darkened the door of a church before who suddenly receive the gospel with power?

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February 25, 2008

Black History Program Wrap-up

Well all is said and done. Months of preparation came to it's fruition this weekend. Here's a few thoughts that I have had about it:

Amanda Salmond is my hero. She was the coordinator of the dress rehearsal and the program. She created a rehearsal plan and then made sure that everything happened at the right time, fielded questions, and solved problems. It was so nice me to just stay with the band and oversee the actually performance elements in the rehearsal and not have to worry about shouting at someone on the other side of the gym to go find somebody else who is supposed to be doing something...anyway, it was a HUGE relief.

Planning ahead is really good. This year I had the date picked very early and the appropriate spaces reserved. Last year, I couldn't have a Friday night rehearsal because I failed to check the church activities calendar to make sure that I could use the space. Next year, I want to have even more planned as early as possible. I'm going to a have our first choir planning meeting in August this year.

Let people use their gifts! I was able to play guitar and lead the band...that is my strongest gift, not conducting. I can do a passable job at conducting a choir, but I much prefer to find people who are excellent conductors who can do it for me. Next year, I don't want to conduct anything!

There were a lot of people offering help the week of the event, but the real work happened in January. Choirs take a lot of advance planning. A lot more that a worship service. They involved lots of people and lots of communication, and very specific music to work with. This year, I want to find people who are willing to do the January work too.

On Sunday, I sat in on a pot-luck lunch for African Americans so that they could share with the leadership thoughts on how we're doing in loving their community. One the things brought up was how important and valuable it is to remember the history of Black people in the USA. They expressed a desire for the next generation to not be ignorant of the road they have traveled. It was very affirming to me that our program is a very important part of the ministry of reconciliation at our church.

I hope next year that a committee will form to plan more events in Black History month that are not musically related. Sunday School classes about Dr. King or about the role of the church in American Slavery or an overview of Gospel or other topics that would be more than a chronological recitation of events.

Maybe by this time next year, we'll have an African American pastor who can help give some much needed leadership in this area.

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January 31, 2008

Calvin College: Institutional Racism?

Here's a post I read this morning from Reconciliation Blog.

My dad just came back from Calvin College this weekend where he was attending the symposium on Worship. Calvin (and the CRC in general) strikes me as an institution that is into the idea of cultural diversity in the church (more than my own denomination's college perhaps). Some of their worship resources have that scholarly vibe of the patchwork quilt of diversity. So it seems odd to me that they would be so off the mark on this issue, and so apparently clueless about racial dynamics.

I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they probably see the issue as "one of our faculty members wants to worship at a BAPTIST (gasp!) church." But, of course, the reality is that this woman just wants to be in a church where she does not experience alienation on a weekly basis.

Lord, if only their were reformed churches in Grand Rapids that had anything to offer this African American woman. Lead us, Jesus!

-I'm interested to here Heidi's thoughts as an alumni of Calvin.
-I'm also interested to here my dad's take on the symposium.
-I'm surprised that Anthony over at the Institute hasn't written a post about it yet.

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January 30, 2008

New City Fellowship Music Team Ministry Report for 2007

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2007 was the year that we saw the dream of a choir program realized. In the spring, the choirs were organized around the Black History Program and Resurrection Sunday. When the fall came around, there were enough singers to make the choir a more established team including a group of committed leaders.

Black History Program
In February, we had an amazing experience when we came together to worship Jesus through the voice and experience of African-Americans. This was a challenge to organize, but it was incredibly encouraging to all who came as well as a wonderful offering of worship.

Growth in South City
God answered many of my prayers when the South City service was blessed with two committed and visionary pastors and with being able to meet in a better facility. The musicians in South City are very thankful to be done with all of the frustrating circumstances surrounding our former location. We are also thankful for how the passionate and focused leadership of Kevin VandenBrink and Macklann Basse has given the entire worship service a boost.

London
I had the pleasure of taking a team of Music Team members to the London Evangelism and Prayer Conference in July. We were given the responsibility of leading the other conferees in worship sessions, and in addition to what we learned and experienced in evangelism, we all came back with a more confident approach to worship leading and greater appreciation for the fellowship of musicians who lead worship together.

Music Team Leadership
This year, I was finally able to get a better taste for team ministry by forming the Music Team Leadership. The Music Team is made up of over 50 volunteers including worship leaders, singers, instrumentalists, sound techs, and text operators. The Music Team Leadership is a small group of people from the Music Team who feel a more committed calling to serve the whole Music Team through leadership.

What to expect in 2008
• South City will develop a more localized music administration and worship planning.
• The choirs will continue to cast a vision for how they can be used for the Kingdom.
• More intentional and relational development of musically gifted leadership.
• Encouraging songwriters, artists, and musicians in our congregation to develop unique expressions of worship that reflect the kaleidoscope of sounds and images that represent New City Fellowship.
• Ward baby #2!

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January 16, 2008

Kanye West and Hip Hop in our Church

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I bought a few of Kanye West's songs from iTunes this week and I have to say that I really like them. I've been a little skeptical because of the controversy that surrounds him. Before I heard his songs, I only knew about him as a guy who said a bunch of inflammatory things about President Bush. But, I am glad that I went ahead and went deeper to actually listen to his music. It's good stuff.

I wish that my church could do more to understand hip-hop and to be more open to that culture. We interact with and minister to youth from the inner city who are all into hip-hop as a cultural lifestyle, and yet it seems like our music, our ways of communicating, our attire, and our attitude is not very hip-hop oriented. It seems very hypocritical that we would make such a strong effort to incorporate African, Latino, or Asian culture into ours, and yet we leave hip-hop out of that process.

You might be thinking that it's a race issue at this point, but I would disagree. We haven't reached a state of perfect harmony between Blacks and Whites in our church, but we've done a lot to embrace Black music and culture. However, it is a different generation, the boomers, that we've been focused on. There are a lot of Black boomer folk who can't stand hip-hop and until they start to reach out to the next generation, there's not much that I can do. (Julia Richer is doing a great job of embracing hip-hop with our youth choir.)

As we get ready for our annual Black History Program, I hope that we can reach out at least a little bit to the hip-hop culture. At this year's program, we'll have a guest musician, Dishon Knox, who is a student at Covenant Seminary (here's a rap that Dishon wrote about the Presbyterian Church of America). I'm glad he's helping us. I'm sure it will be an awkward moment as the normally boisterous NCF crowd becomes uncomfortable with how to respond to this music, but of course, awkward moments are a natural result of ministering across cultures.

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August 15, 2007

Gatumba Massacre

Some Congolese members of our congregation in South City just got back from a memorial conference in Albany NY for people who survived the Gatumba massacre. This is an article done by a St. Louis paper. This is an article about the conference by a paper in Albany that actually mentions one of our members, Sideriya Nangabire.

It's hard to miss the strength of the survivors' faith in Jesus and their confidence that God is good even in the midst of such tragedy.

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August 10, 2007

Pics from London

Sarah and I were so focused on surviving that we failed to take any pictures while were doing ministry. We had to rely on our friends to preserve the moment in pictures. These are a few that Jennifer Owens snapped. Click on the image to see a larger version.

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This is me standing in the middle of the road in front of the Asha Charity Shop. It's a thrift store that is run by the church there to generate income to fund ministries and as a venue for sharing the gospel. We got some great eclaires a few doors down at Pual's(sic) bakery.

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This is a Hindu temple in Wembly that we visited. I think it's the second largest temple outside of India. It's full of idols.

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This is our team leading worship with a few guests (Chuck the cop and Matt the intern.)

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This is the front of the mosque that we visited.

To check out more of Jennifer's pictures click here.
To see pictures of our days off at Sarah's parent's house you have to check out Sarah's Facebook album.

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August 4, 2006

James Ward circa 1987

It’s amazing what Google can unearth from the bowels of the World Wide Web. I did a search on “New City Fellowship” and a few pages in, I discovered this archived interview that my father, James Ward, did for Reformed Worship in 1987 about being a music director in a multi-cultural Presbyterian church. It’s cool to read his responses and to think about NCF Chattanooga in those days when I was only 8 years old.

Harry Boonstra did the interview. I don’t know what his personal position on worship was but he asked some great questions that Reformed Worship readers would want to know the answer to. As a NCF kid, I never questioned why we do what we do because it’s all I’ve known, but it is a good reminder to see just how bizarre NCF still is to a lot of people.

Some questions that I particularly liked:
Q. The reason for not singing from the Scottish Psalter is that it would be foreign to the church?

Q. How can your church still be recognized as a Presbyterian church?

Q. The Church Growth people say that a church is most likely to grow if it is as uniform as possible in terms of income and race and social status. Why have an intercultural, interracial church? Aren't you putting up barriers to people joining?

Q. On the question of diversity— most of our readers are from middle class, homogeneous churches. Should white, suburban churches deliberately, in their choice of music, borrow from other traditions, such as black gospel? Or would that seem contrived?

Q. Let me put the music question another way: If New City gets rich enough to buy a pipe organ, would you vote for that purchase?

Read the whole interview; it’s worth it!

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May 30, 2006

Who is this Mzungu?

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Thank you for your prayers for the Congo Prayer Conference. It was a truly unique experience for me. As I had anticipated, it was a lot of work and it consumed a lot of time; however, the Lord answered my prayers and gave me joy to be a part of it despite the workload. Now, I am sick with a cold that was probably due to the stress of all that work, but God is good!

My role in the conference, besides helping to coordinate the music and technical needs, was to be a bit of a freak show. According to my African friends, God has blessed me with the unusual ability to sing in various African languages with no apparent accent. I have also spent time learning how to play the guitar in a Congolese style and was able to hold my own playing with the other African musicians. So, all the conference attendees were quite amused with this white boy (“mzungu” as they say in Swahili) who would sing and play like he was born and raised in the Congo. At one point, Sarah told me there was an audible chatter and snickering from the audience after I sang a particularly fast phrase in Kikongo.

What is the secret to my success? Leon Mukendi says that I posses the gift of tongues. I don’t know about that, but I do know that the Holy Spirit has captured my heart to serve the Lord in a particular time and place and in particular ways. As the music director of a multi-lingual church, I have a calling to pursue the proper pronunciation and stylistic interpretation of the music from our unique cultures. That means that to show love to the Congolese, Kenyan, Liberian, Nigerian, Zambian, Togolese or whomever I need to actively pursue understanding their music better. It’s like marriage; I have a calling to pursue my wife by getting to know everything about her.

So, it was not an accident that I can play and sing certain types of African music. During the past two years since I took this job, I have spent time listening to and analyzing recordings. I have observed how the music is performed by the Africans in our church. I have asked questions and asked for constructive criticism from them. I spent time searching on Google, Amazon, or AMG terms like “Congolese music” or “African guitar,” and found recordings or text on the subject. My motivation was not a particular affection for African music, but rather a particular affection for the African people in our congregation.

Was Leon correct that it is some kind of spiritual gift? Of course! The same Holy Spirit that gifts a pastor to work at composing a sermon or gifts a deacon in the active work of mercy gave me the calling, the talent, and the motivation to do this special service to the Africans in our church. Praise the Lord!

Special Note-When I looked up “Mzungu” in the Swahili-English dictionary it can mean “white person” but it can also mean “something baffling” or an “ability, marvel, or feat”

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February 14, 2006

Finding a "Brand New Bag"

“This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers.”
1 John 3:16

Culture is a complex thing. Some cultures are defined along ethnic and racial lines. Then they can further branch out from economic, educational, and generational diversity. The subtleties of understanding and speaking to cultures different from my own can be at times frustrating. There are times when I begin to doubt whether it makes any difference or that there is any value in trying to be unified into a church made up of so many different cultures. Why not have separate culturally specific congregations where we all worship with the music that is most comfortable and understandable to that particular group?

This weekend, I was reminded of why it is so exciting and meaningful to be part of an intentionally multi-cultural church. When I learn to sing songs that are from the Congo or from the African-American tradition, I am performing a specific act of love toward my brothers in Christ. The way I stretch myself to listen, to adapt, and to absorb a certain music style clearly communicates that I love this culture as Christ loves it.

As is almost always the case, the way of the world is not the way of the cross. Musicians all have a certain “bag” or “shtick” or “sound.” Early on as a musician develops his skills, he learns that one of the golden rules of music is: “find what you can do well and do it a lot.” But, some of the greatest musicians in history have produced embarrassing performances when they get outside of their sound. I love Ella Fitzgerald, but there is a track I have of her singing, “The Girl from Ipanema” that is terrible! Ella might be the swinging-est singer who ever lived, but that was her problem: she butchered “Ipanema” by swinging it. My point is that the greatest point of vulnerability for any musician is when they are asked to play outside of their particular safety zone of style.

Taking on the cumbersome task of attempting to have a multi-cultural worship service means that the musicians must enter into their greatest place of weakness and vulnerability. That is the exact thing that Christ did for us: he became completely weak and vulnerable in order to show his amazing love for us.

This weekend, I stuck my neck way-out in several ways. I arranged a negro-spiritual for a choir (never done that before), I sung a gospel lead imitating Kurt Carr (yeah, right! as if I could come close to sounding like him), and I led a Congolese song in Swahili (what makes a white-boy from Tennessee in any way qualified to do that?). But, after the service, I receive a response of loving gratitude from both Africans and African-Americans because they had deeply appreciated that I would show them love by learning their music. I am not particularly good at playing or singing in these styles, but they were not responding to the strength of my performance. They responded to the love that I showed to them by laying down my “bag” and my “shtick” in order to honor them by honoring their culture.

Happy Valentines Day!

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January 10, 2006

Aradhna

In my line of work, I am constantly being given CD’s to listen to. Honestly, 90% of these recordings are either really bad or just plain boring. I know that these folks mean well, and I appreciate their desire to help me. It is particularly helpful when the recording is from a style that I need to learn more about like Congolese or Latino worship. In these areas, I am always grateful for more resources. However, it takes a lot for me to get impressed by yet another guitar strummin’ white-boy whose primary influences include Pearl Jam and Wilco. (I am in fact a guitar strummin’ white-boy who has been influenced by Pearl Jam and Wilco at points in my life.) My point is that I don’t often put on one of these loaner CD’s from an arm-chair talent scout and experience a totally new music that makes me sit up and say, “Huh, that’s something completely unique!”

I had that experience this morning with a band called Aradhna.


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November 7, 2005

More on Culture

What an awesome response to “the 150% person!” Having so many people interact and express their ideas is exactly what I was hoping the blog could become.

After reading all these excellent comments, I want to exercise my power as the blog-master to steer the conversation in a specific direction. I commend those of you who are emphasizing the principle from Galatians 3 that our unity as believers is founded on the fact that we are all possessions of Christ and heirs of the promise of Abraham.

However, I want to give a gentle reminder of the context of this principle. The Galatian church was struggling with a cultural identity crisis. The Judaizers were creating an environment in the church that placed Jewish culture above the culture of the Gentiles. Paul was warning the Galatians not to fall into a trap of legalism created by culturally determined laws. So, Paul was not advocating the creation of a single unified Christian culture. He was actually endorsing a culturally pluralistic vision of the kingdom where Jews could be Jews who follow Christ and Gentiles could be Gentiles who follow Christ and they could all worship together in the same church. So when he said there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, neither male nor female, Paul was not removing all cultural distinctives. If that were what he meant, then we would also remove all gender distinctives, too.

Jesus Christ did not come to abolish culture; he came to redeem it. He is in the business of reusing and recycling the cultures of the world for his glory. He loves us as individuals, which means he loves us as the person that he made us to be. Our culture, gender, education, experiences, personality, or whatever else combines to make us a unique person are all things that Jesus loves and wants to redeem for his purposes.

The concept of the incarnation helps to illustrate this. Jesus was a Jew, and he was a man. He spoke Aramaic. He was educated in the Jewish tradition, and he taught using Jewish Rabbinical techniques. Jesus was circumcised. Jesus worshiped at the temple and observed the Jewish festivals and customs. But, when Jesus died and was resurrected, did he lose his Jewish-ness? Did he lose his masculinity? Did he speak to his disciples in some otherworldly tongue instead of Aramaic? We can even assume that if the resurrected Jesus had scars on his hands and side, than he was probably still circumcised, too.

My point is that Jesus' whole plan for redemption was acted out through a specific culture, and even after he was given a resurrected body, he still possesses his cultural identity. Culture is part of the Lord’s creation that was declared to be GOOD. Today, our cultures suffer the effects of sin and the curse of the fall. Part of our role as the first fruits of the new order of the kingdom is to redeem culture for Jesus, to make it good again.

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November 2, 2005

The 150% Person

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I took a class called Youth Ministry across cultures this fall in which I had to read a book called Ministering Cross-Culturally: An Incarnational Model for Personal Relationships by Sherwood G. Lingenfelter with Marvin Keene Mayers. One of the basic premises of the book was an “incarnarional” mode of ministry. This means that in the same way that Jesus came to earth and was made flesh we enter into different cultures to reflect that same love. Jesus was 100% God and yet he became a baby in the context of the Jewish culture at that time. Jesus grew up in that culture learning everything about being a legitimate Jewish man. In this way, Jesus was 100% God and 100% man. He was the 200% person.

For us as the followers of Christ, we are called, as Paul said in Philippians 2, to have the same attitude of Christ. We humbly enter into the world and culture around us and become “babies” in order to become one in spirit and purpose. This is one of the core values of New City Fellowship. Racial reconciliation is a process of humbly submitting ourselves to each other in love and unity through having open and teachable hearts. The authors of this book believed that Jesus becoming the 200% person was something impossible for anyone but God. They postulate that we can’t give up more that 75% of our original culture, but we strive to adopt 75% of the new culture. We are called to be a kind 150% person. Let me take a plunge of the deep end and try to appy this principle to some of the practical realities of NCF in St. Louis.

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October 12, 2005

Nairobi Statement on Worship and Culture

While I was looking through some worship related web stuff, something caught my attention. The Lutheran World Federation created a document in 1996 called the “Nairobi Statement on Worship and Culture.” It caught my eye because my wife was raised in Nairobi. This is a synopsis of that statement that I got from the Calvin Institute of Christian Worship website:

1) Worship is transcultural. (Worship has certain dynamics that are present on every continent.)
2) Worship is contextual. (Worship reflects local patterns of speech, dress, and other cultural characteristics.)
3) Worship is counter-cultural. (Worship resists the idolatries of a given culture.)
4) Worship is cross-cultural. (Worship reflects the fact that the body of Christ transcends time and space.)

I appreciate how this addresses the commonalities and the differences that different cultures have in worship, as well as the constant struggle every culture has in overcoming their idolatries. I might change the term “counter-cultural” with "reformational" because while we resist idolatries in our culture, we are also salt and light which reforms our culture. Maybe their “contextual” is intended to reflect this idea, but I don’t think it does.

In fact, after reading parts of the full statement, there are more things that stick out to me that I think are dangerous. For example, the “transcultural” point is fleshed out to look a lot more like the unified reformed liturgy position that some of my PCA peers prefer. This position believes that in order to unify the denomination, all our churches should worship using the exact same liturgy regardless of cultural differences.

So, maybe this is just a good spring board to get us thinking more about how Worship and Culture interact.

Any thoughts?

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